Talk:Ruger SR-Series

Renaming article to Ruger SR series

Since Wikipedia has a Ruger P series article regarding Ruger P series pistol line and the Ruger SR series of pistols since October 2010 feature 3 variants in 2 chamberings I suggest to rename the Ruger SR9 article to Ruger SR series.

Please leave a comment below if you are in favor or opposed to renaming the article to Ruger SR series.--Francis Flinch (talk) 17:07, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

In favor - Since the introduction of the SR40 these centerfire semi-automatic pistols have become a pistol line made by Sturm, Ruger & Company. --Francis Flinch (talk) 17:07, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Agree - seems like a better idea for a more thorough article without repeating a lot of effort and info. AliveFreeHappy (talk) 18:48, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Intended use of the Ruger SR

The first paragraph of the article says "The SR series has been marketed as a backup/concealment weapon for law enforcement as well as for civilian self-defensive concealed carry." It seems really unlikely that Ruger has somehow found a way to engineer a pistol so that a civilian who is carrying one reveals it for self-defense, it works, but when the same civilian reveals it for some other purpose, it does not work. Absent a discussion and citation to show how this really clever bit of engineering is accomplished, the phrase "self-defensive" is more like a wish than an objective description, so I removed it. Peter D'Eustachio (talk) 21:03, 4 July 2012 (UTC)

What? You're really complaining that the marketing for a gun emphasizes self-defense? That's really stretching. — The Hand That Feeds You:^Bite 04:42, 5 July 2012 (UTC)

I also find this argument and edit to be completely devoid of merit. Marketing for a specific target audience in no way requires you to make it useless for other uses. And yes, the design and manufacturing, not just the marketing, did favor the self-defense users over the illegal offensive users as it is not designed as a disposable gun and even the cheaper version (SR9E) that allows one to defer, more than eliminate, some of the initial capital outlay is still more than twice the price of inexpensive models such as the Hi-point C9 or Jimenez JA-NINE. While both the legitimate self-defense user and the illegal user may benefit from lower cost, the illegal user will be unlikely to make regular use of the firing range (even if he made the effort, he might be asked to complete a criminal background check for range membership) and would thus have little or reduced use for design features like durability, reliability, ease of maintenance, ability to customize and accessorize, official warranty and unofficial beyond warranty care, accuracy, safety features, etc. Even when they might benefit from those features, when amortized over a short disposable life would they be worth paying more for? The defunct Raven and Lorkin low cost low quality "saturday night specials" were associated with disproportionate crime usage. If criminals did obtain a higher quality firearm, they might be inclined to reserve it for actual self-defense rather than waste it on a crime. In a political climate where people spectacularly ignorant regarding firearms ascribe nefarious purposes to legitimate features and feel qualified to meddle in public policy and infringe the rights of others, that they may give up essential liberties to purchase the illusion of temporary security, removing the term "self-defensive" affords ample opportunity for the reader to insert bias. 75.75.0.198 (talk) 08:00, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

SR22

I have split the SR22 out; it is a unique design. See SIG Mosquito or Walther P22 for other examples of rimfire pistols with their own articles. The SR22 uses a completely different operating system and is not a related design at all. Faceless Enemy (talk) 19:27, 11 January 2015 (UTC)

SR9E

There is a "new" (2 years ago)lower cost version of the SR9 called the SR9E. Costs $100 less, Removes the loaded chamber indictor flag (but you can still see the cartridge rim through the opening for the flag like on the LC9S), doesn't come with an extra magazine, loading tool, or plastic case, reduces the amount of machining with fewer but wider groves on slide and shallower dovetails on sights. Sometimes refered to as the 9E. 75.75.0.198 (talk) 05:37, 18 June 2016 (UTC)

References

Ruger American Pistol

• The Ruger American Pistol is a polymer semi-automatic pistol introduced by Ruger in 2016. It differs from the SR series by lacking a manual safety and magazine disconnect. The fire control group is the serialized part which means you can buy new frames without having to go through the FFL process. It comes in 9mm and .45 ACP chamberings, interestingly not available in .40 S&W chambering.

That's the whole article. If the only difference is the safety and magazine disconnect then it might as well be merged into this article. If there's more to it than that article should be expanded with sources. Felsic2 (talk) 18:08, 3 December 2016 (UTC)

Completely different designs. No merge. Faceless Enemy (talk) 23:53, 6 December 2016 (UTC)

OK. The article must have ben wrong then. Felsic2 (talk) 04:30, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

It wasn't factually incorrect before, just very, very incomplete. There are lots of other differences. Faceless Enemy (talk) 13:21, 8 December 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing it. Felsic2 (talk) 19:26, 10 December 2016 (UTC)

Recent edit

Preserving here by providing this link. My rationale was: WP:CATALOG: excessive and promotional detail; uncited; unneeded self-citations. Please let me know if there are any concerns. --K.e.coffman (talk) 22:04, 27 April 2018 (UTC)

But, but, but I NEEDED that info to buy new accessories for my gun, and I do love my Ruger. I've owned four Ruger weapons. Quality. -- BullRangifer (talk) PingMe 23:06, 27 April 2018 (UTC)